More on #Rhizo15 and Introverts
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This concept, a generalization that I believe Deleuze would scoff at, sprouted a new tuber in our broken chain of unbroken links. Read the conversation in its closest I could come to recreating:
Introvert question for #rhizo15 actually came from this post. http:/
/ t.co/ gSFrKRdWJM If you want to comment in-depth. #rhizo15 @oldaily — Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 23, 2015
@NomadWarMachine @oldaily Maybe Descartes is a bad example - I still wonder about the place for the introvert in a connected learning enviro
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 23, 2015
@NomadWarMachine @oldaily The hermit seems like a good example & a tarot card. Is he apart of the communty if hes not giving back? #rhizo15
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 23, 2015
@Autumm @NomadWarMachine @oldaily introverts not hermits! that's an unhelpful stereotype.I recommend the book "Quiet" by @susancain #rhizo15
— Rachel Hammel (@hammel_rachel) April 24, 2015
@NomadWarMachine @oldaily But what if you thrive on that aloneness as Cain suggests? Can you still contribute to something like #rhizo15
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 23, 2015
@NomadWarMachine @oldaily Maybe not but is #rhizo15 losing out by not having more introverts? Cain points out the value of introverts.
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 23, 2015
@NomadWarMachine @Autumm @oldaily introverts consist up to half population and can function well in networked environments. #rhizo15
— Rachel Hammel (@hammel_rachel) April 24, 2015
@hammel_rachel I’m very familiar with Cain - thanks for the feedback on the metaphor. @NomadWarMachine @oldaily @susancain #rhizo15
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 24, 2015
@hammel_rachel Do you think that connectivism is conducive to introversion? How about #rhizo15 ? @NomadWarMachine @oldaily @susancain
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 24, 2015
@Autumm @hammel_rachel @oldaily @susancain Yes, we're trying to find an example of one who never collaborated, not labelling introv #rhizo15
— Sarah Honeychurch (@NomadWarMachine) April 24, 2015
@Autumm @hammel_rachel @oldaily @susancain as long as we understand that quiet participation is also ok: reading and not writing #rhizo15
— Sarah Honeychurch (@NomadWarMachine) April 24, 2015
@Autumm thanks will take a look. So much bias & misunderstanding about introverts & learning. Glad you intro this discussion to #rhizo15
— Rachel Hammel (@hammel_rachel) April 24, 2015
@hammel_rachel I’m interested in bias in general and how it affects teaching/learning but this one hits close to home. #onlychild #rhizo15
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 24, 2015
@hammel_rachel @Autumm but we are conflating introverted personality with fluency in open learning spaces. They are different.t. #rhizo15
— Greg McVerry (@jgmac1106) April 24, 2015
@jgmac1106 @Autumm can you expand on that?
— Rachel Hammel (@hammel_rachel) April 24, 2015
@jgmac1106 I’ve been wondering about #rhizo15 being MORE suited to introverts giving flexibility in tools and time…. @hammel_rachel
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 24, 2015
@Autumm @hammel_rachel this is good learning whether you project yourself as exo, intro, or ambi. Goof pedagogy meets needs. #rhizo15
— Greg McVerry (@jgmac1106) April 24, 2015
@Autumm @hammel_rachel It does take some #webliteracy skills and #openfluency to succeed. These courses rarely work with noobs IMO #rhizo15
— Greg McVerry (@jgmac1106) April 24, 2015
@hammel_rachel @Autumm We are arguing that #rhizo15 space is for introverts. I think that really isn't the point and its more the tools.
— Greg McVerry (@jgmac1106) April 24, 2015
@jgmac1106 But what about connectivism? Doesn’t that theory focus on the connections? Connected introverts? @hammel_rachel #rhizo15
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 24, 2015
@Autumm @hammel_rachel Its a different metaphor of hubs and nodes versus the #rhizo15 metaphor of rhizome. Similar, the same, but different
— Greg McVerry (@jgmac1106) April 24, 2015
@jgmac1106 @hammel_rachel I’m not sure #rhizo15 is a place for introverts - I’m still hashing that out.
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 24, 2015
@Autumm @hammel_rachel Why wrap up the identity your project in the idea of being introverted. You can be open and introverted. #rhizo15
— Greg McVerry (@jgmac1106) April 24, 2015
@Autumm @hammel_rachel Check out @ttscoff he is the mayor of the lollipop guild of open introverts. #rhizo15
— Greg McVerry (@jgmac1106) April 24, 2015
@jgmac1106 @autumm @hammel_rachel this is now my Twitter profile tagline.
— Brett Terpstra (@ttscoff) April 24, 2015
@ttscoff @jgmac1106 @hammel_rachel Heads up everyone - we have An Official in the stream. Your thoughts Mr. Mayor? #rhizo15
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 24, 2015
@Autumm @jgmac1106 @hammel_rachel I learn best from interaction, and modern forms of communication facilitate that despite introversion.
— Brett Terpstra (@ttscoff) April 24, 2015
@Autumm @jgmac1106 @hammel_rachel I'm also a hermit, but unrelated. I love communication and dialectic conversation. Just not in person :).
— Brett Terpstra (@ttscoff) April 24, 2015
@jgmac1106 @ttscoff @Autumm @hammel_rachel The internet is magical for those of us who are introverts
— Stephanie Loomis (@MrsLoomis) April 24, 2015
@MrsLoomis @Autumm @hammel_rachel @ttscoff I am pedovert. Extremely extroverted masking an introvert who ends up with foot in mouth #rhizo15
— Greg McVerry (@jgmac1106) April 24, 2015
@mrsloomis @jgmac1106 @autumm @hammel_rachel I've learned how to be polite, and to avoid overextending myself to the point of bad behavior.
— Brett Terpstra (@ttscoff) April 24, 2015
@ttscoff @jgmac1106 @Autumm @hammel_rachel A nap, however, is requires after any social interaction. Or at least some solitude.
— Stephanie Loomis (@MrsLoomis) April 24, 2015
@ttscoff @jgmac1106 @Autumm @hammel_rachel Better than socially awkward
— Stephanie Loomis (@MrsLoomis) April 24, 2015
@jgmac1106 @MrsLoomis @Autumm @hammel_rachel @ttscoff I am helicovert: circling around in a spiral of exploration #Rhizo15
— Laura Gibbs (@OnlineCrsLady) April 24, 2015
@jgmac1106 @MrsLoomis @Autumm @hammel_rachel @ttscoff & if you remember Spirograph fondly, try Inspirograph: http:/
/ t.co/ x2H9Hk1bc2 #Rhizo15 — Laura Gibbs (@OnlineCrsLady) April 24, 2015
@NomadWarMachine @jgmac1106 @MrsLoomis @Autumm @hammel_rachel @ttscoff you can blame @mdvfunes for lovely Inspirograph; got it from her :-)
— Laura Gibbs (@OnlineCrsLady) April 24, 2015
@hj_dewaard @OnlineCrsLady how do we count fun? #rhizo15
— Sarah Honeychurch (@NomadWarMachine) April 24, 2015
Calling makers, developers, programmers, inventors. Fun o'meter needed. Apply w/reply @NomadWarMachine @hj_dewaard @OnlineCrsLady #rhizo15
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 24, 2015
It isn't extro or intro, its self-programmable
How can any self-proclaimed introvert or extrovert claim this isn't a place where they can learn. Look at the many landscapes of knowledge this thread traversed. We went from Cain and introverts, through Descartes, to a podcaster a roped in, and landed on Marina Funes of #DS106 fame.
In the space of trying to figure if we could learn we did learn. I think the difference boils down to what Castells and Cardosa call the self-programmable learner. They argue a network society requires a new network fluidity. I think extroverts and introverts, which I argue are identities we project and have projected upon us, are inconsequential. Both can suck at these distributed learning spaces. I do think many introverts may find these spaces safer, or freeing, to play
Tyranny of Tools
It can be intimidating to watch the number of tools abound in our space. I still stand in awe watching dogtrax work. He has the special sauce. Luckily the tool does not matter. I care not for the medium or mode, but for the message. Yes we do learn how to bend our message with the latest doohickey whatchyamacallit, but you can get your message across in plain text if you desire.
To survive try not to even master all the multimodal meaning making. Enjoy it. Pick one or two mentor texts. Poach ideas. Steal designs. Try to learn one or two new ways to express yourself
@AnnalisaManca Fascinating! Curious what other tools you use to participate in #rhizo15 besides twitter. @jgmac1106 @hammel_rachel
— Autumm Caines (@Autumm) April 24, 2015
Rachel is right. Be out here in your own way. (re)Design your own #rhizo learning space based on your subjectives. You can survive no matter how you vert.
Tyranny of the Swarm
Someone in another post, brought up swarms. I don't think human swarms are good. I worry if the swarm of folks who travel like locusts from each #ccourses experience if we crowd out the space. JPG talks about many portals of entry to Affinity Spaces. I hope my backside isn't blocking the door.
Should more experienced self-programmable learners hold back? Or are we simply modeling increased level of participation? I don't know the answer just know I want to help, teach, and learn.
To this end I will be meeting with Rachel and anyone else who wants to learn about how to move to a self-hosted blog. Details to be worked out.
Co-designing self-programmable learners
If you figure this out please tell me. Part of my subjectives.
